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Can anyone tell me what these are?  I found them growing in the "yard," and transplanted them because they had buds, and they looked intentional.





EDIT:  Oh - they're bulbs.  Itty bitty onion-looking bulbs.

EDIT #2: Leaves



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golden_meliades
May. 25th, 2010 01:28 am (UTC)
Looks like a variety of hyacinth to me. I have the same things in my garden. Hyacinths are usually denser, though...they could just be ones that haven't developed much yet. Some varieties are less clustery than usual, but those are still very strung out in comparison. Here's an example: http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1322998514051578720OTWKrd

Yours look the same except a little anaemic. Hard to tell without a look at the leaves. They certainly look like hyacinth flowers, but if they are the stem is VERY thin and there are no thick leaves that I can see so they're either not doing well or aren't established yet.

Or they're something else. Hyacinths would be finished blooming right now in your climate (which should be at least as warm as mine) unless they're in an especially cold location.

So the growth habit is not right for a strong hyacinth but that is still what they look like to me.
golden_meliades
May. 25th, 2010 01:31 am (UTC)
You know what? No. I looked at an enlargement of your photo and they're not right at all. The way the stem seems to be coming out of those leaves and all just isn't right for a hyacinth, unless it's a less-common cultivar. I'll have to see if my dad recognizes it.

Then again, muscari is a type of hyacinth, and those look SO like the individual hyacinth blooms...

Edited at 2010-05-25 01:36 am (UTC)
kls_eloise
May. 25th, 2010 01:44 am (UTC)
I thought hyacinth too, but they're not right. See those long thin leaves that look like grass? Those are the leaves. They're kind of splayed out right now from my decidedly ungentle handling, but originally they stood up kind of spiky, rather like narcissus (only much smaller.) I ran out with a flashlight and measured, and the whole thing is about 10 inches tall. I've added a very bad picture of the leaves.
jdulac
May. 25th, 2010 01:52 am (UTC)
wood hyacinth, Hyacinthoides hispanica, also known as Endymion hispanicus, Scilla hispanicus, Scilla campanulata

It is a bulb that grows well in shady areas.
kls_eloise
May. 25th, 2010 12:46 pm (UTC)
Wonderful! I'll keep them! (and probably move them yet again - if they like shade, I have a *bunch* of good spots for them.)
jdulac
May. 25th, 2010 01:03 pm (UTC)
if you move them, you should really wait until they are done blooming and foliage has cured (i.e. died away). The bulb will be dormant then and you can do whatever you want with it. Bulbs don't much care for being moved while growing/blooming, unless you are very careful to take a big enough clump of dirt and do not disturb the roots in any way.
kls_eloise
May. 25th, 2010 05:04 pm (UTC)
Well, when I moved them while in bud, the choices were transplanting or compost. But this time I can wait until they're done. All things being equal, they took it very well...
badgersandjam
May. 25th, 2010 08:02 am (UTC)
Looks like either a bluebell or some other sort of bellflower, like a campanula.
merimask
May. 25th, 2010 12:05 pm (UTC)
jdulac is right...wood hyacinth. http://roses.toytrains1.com/wood_hyacinth.htm
Mel is amazing at spotting plant families. :-) She figured out my loosestrife in the back yard & that's been puzzling me for years!
badgersandjam
May. 25th, 2010 12:13 pm (UTC)
The OED tells me I'm right, too--wood hyacinth is another name for bluebells!
badgersandjam
May. 25th, 2010 12:14 pm (UTC)
I can image all sorts of springtime fun with Americans visiting the British countryside in spring, hoping to see bluebells and being disappointed at only seeing wood hycaniths :)
kls_eloise
May. 25th, 2010 12:50 pm (UTC)
Two countries separated by a common language...
golden_meliades
May. 25th, 2010 06:45 pm (UTC)
Not so much in Canada. :) We're still pretty in-touch with our British roots and we live next door to the US so we kind of have a foot in each country, so to speak. (We usually end up having both names used here.)
golden_meliades
May. 25th, 2010 07:02 pm (UTC)
There's more than one type of flower people call 'bluebells', so it's extra confusing, especially since even the ones that are not related, LOOK related.

Bluebells are actually apparently slightly different from wood hyacinth, mostly noticeable in that they have a slightly broader leaf. Meri's link shows both if you click on a secondary link...they're really almost identical.

http://roses.toytrains1.com/wood_hyacinth.htm
http://roses.toytrains1.com/bluebells.htm
kls_eloise
May. 25th, 2010 12:48 pm (UTC)
I was kind of figuring she'd set me on the right path. The downside of having a house formerly owned by a member of the garden club is that I can't tell the players, and I don't have a scorecard.

Later in the season I'll be posting pictures of my odd white flowers that I don't know what they are - but I really like them.
galingale
May. 25th, 2010 03:41 pm (UTC)
Garden club, hmm? Here's a "popular" semi-rare shade-lover ... getting Solomon's Seal going made my MIL all sorts of excited.

http://www.ct-botanical-society.org/galleries/polygonatumbifl.html
kls_eloise
May. 25th, 2010 05:07 pm (UTC)
Really? I have a huge variagated Solomon's Seal by the front door that is the next probable candidate for the garden shears/garden fork/compost pile. It's just not blowing my skirt up, and it keeps trying to take over. Not to mention that area is going to be encroached on with pavers whenever we finally get around to replacing the front walk. That won't be this year, though.
galingale
May. 25th, 2010 06:40 pm (UTC)
I'll take it. Anything that's not "American Bamboo" or Bishop's Weed is worth a try!
;)
golden_meliades
May. 25th, 2010 07:06 pm (UTC)
I love polygonatum and have been planting it for years, now. It has strong medicinal purpose, too. My herbalist (whom I no longer see but did receive some good advice from) recced it for me specifically and that's when I started planting it, since tinctures are really expensive. (Never went all the way down that route, though!)

Couldn't remember why she recced it, so looked it up...now I remember! http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/herbcentral/polygonatum.php

Too bad you don't like it, but if you don't like the look and have no medical need of it, why the heck keep it? I rip out everything I don't like, too. :)
kls_eloise
May. 26th, 2010 02:32 am (UTC)
Interesting! I think that most of my objection to it is its current location. Finding out that it isn't a deep rooted shrub means that I might be able to move it to somewhere I'll like it better. I don't have to decide any time soon. It's just a little too sprawling and aggressive for something planted next to the front steps.
galingale
May. 25th, 2010 03:41 pm (UTC)
oops I meant to send this along too.
Browse wildflowers by color...
http://www.ct-botanical-society.org/galleries/galleryw.html
golden_meliades
May. 25th, 2010 07:16 pm (UTC)
I always know if I see a request for 'gardening assistance' on my flist, that it's probably meant for me :)

Well, when you've been in the business for twenty-five years, even second-hand, that's bound to be the case! Besides, if *I* can't identify them, it's never been that my parents could not. Maybe if it's something from the Amazon or so on that never occurs in North America, but if it lives here, my folks are almost guaranteed to know what it is. I'm better at saying 'hey, doesn't that look like a hyacinth?' than identifying the exact variety. (It's a lot easier.)
kls_eloise
May. 26th, 2010 02:26 am (UTC)
I figured that between you and jdulac, someone would know. Jehan is also quite a gardener. Either way, someone was going to help me!
golden_meliades
May. 25th, 2010 06:52 pm (UTC)
I always tend to recognize elements. There are millions of types of plant in the world and I just can't know them all, my memory sucks to begin. But lumping things into families or even family branches narrows it down a lot. :) (If you can identify the branch, you can usually search out the individual cultivar.)

We don't have wood hyacinths here, not that I've seen, but I knew that bloody flower was a hyacinth...it just looked like a weedy, strung-out version of the drumstick-like type we have. I should have realized that it was a naturalized version.
kls_eloise
May. 26th, 2010 02:27 am (UTC)
Ironically, I thought "hyacinth?" when I saw it in bud, but then figured I was wrong.
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